Please show some manners when trading

[mef623]

I have now had two people in a row agree to and set up trades and then back out.  Look, if you are going to do a trade and agree to it, then do it.  And if you're still taking bids, don't agree to a trade.

I don't know what's happening around here, but it's changed.

I'm not going to name names here, but I am going to let Krista know.  

Mike

[benh7777]

I understand your frustration and have seen it happening more often lately to others. However, there seems to be more players that have returned to the game after being gone for a while, prices on things have risen dramatically since they have last played. As it should be on them to know the going rates before they make a deal, but at the same time what would be a great deal to them 6 months ago is now nothing, should also rest in the good faith of a player that they are dealing with and currently playing and is in the know.

Not saying you are one taking advantage of these players at all, I'm just saying I've seen this happening.

Another problem that would fall into this thread is someone saying they will make a deal with whoever, then before it is confirmed, they get a pm from someone else saying they will beat whatever price that was agreed on. This is where the private trades off of the original posts hurt the trading.

[willylee2008]

I understand your frustration and have seen it happening more often lately to others. However, there seems to be more players that have returned to the game after being gone for a while, prices on things have risen dramatically since they have last played. As it should be on them to know the going rates before they make a deal, but at the same time what would be a great deal to them 6 months ago is now nothing, should also rest in the good faith of a player that they are dealing with and currently playing and is in the know.

Not saying you are one taking advantage of these players at all, I'm just saying I've seen this happening.

Another problem that would fall into this thread is someone saying they will make a deal with whoever, then before it is confirmed, they get a pm from someone else saying they will beat whatever price that was agreed on. This is where the private trades off of the original posts hurt the trading.

You have pointed out the fact. Since the market price have risen a lot, I have received a lot of pm after my deal was posted. The only way to stop the pm is to complete the deal or post a bid. However, I have already made two deals for my moves. So I chose to post a new bid to stop the pm, I am really sorry about that mef623.

[willylee2008]

I have now had two people in a row agree to and set up trades and then back out.  Look, if you are going to do a trade and agree to it, then do it.  And if you're still taking bids, don't agree to a trade.

I don't know what's happening around here, but it's changed.

I'm not going to name names here, but I am going to let Krista know.  

Mike

For ur another trade, I think that it should be the private trade with sixer. Am I right?? I think sixer is going to cashout. sixer need md or mds quickly. sixer set up a trade on 28 Sept. However, you confirmed on 30 Sept. sixer sold 20 yellows to benh7777 between 28 Sept and 30 Sept.

[jtokarsbr]

Willylee, you don't know what you're talking about.

It's this simple, you DO NOT agree to a trade with one person, and then agree to the SAME TRADE of the SAME ITEMS with another. Unless you have enough to cover it all, YOU CAN'T DO THAT!

PMs are not the issue at all. There is nothing wrong with seeing that someone is making a particular deal with someone else and inquiring as to whether or not that person wants to make an ADDITIONAL deal.

[mef623]

As I said, I'm going to keep names out of it, but please take jtokarsbr's advice to heart.  If you agree to a trade, whether on the forum or not, it's horrible form to go back on it.  

Players have a couple of choices: keep the bidding open (and accept the risk that some bidders will eventually drop out), close it when it hits what you consider to be fair value or arrange to make an additional trade with a separate person by PM.  If you're not willing to complete a trade, don't agree to it.

I will agree to the fact that prices have gone up, particularly for moves.  I dropped out for a while and came back to find out how much they had gone up.  But what does that have to do with agreeing to a trade?  If you agree, consummate it.  If you don't like the price, hold out the next time.

Mike

[benh7777]

PMs are not the issue at all. There is nothing wrong with seeing that someone is making a particular deal with someone else and inquiring as to whether or not that person wants to make an ADDITIONAL deal.

Maybe not every single time, but 95% of the time you see a private trade posted the two parties have at some point agreed to some sort of a trade.

I believe sending pm's to interrupt a trade already in the making is not right. It is against the rules to post an offer on a trade that is already confirmed, there is no difference in that than sending pm's before the final confirmation.