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[7upncider]

 
look like HOT topic came out day by day after I cash-out then can make faster upgrade.

what i see u hate member when they cashing out, after that play again then can upgrade.

Kelate, I see more jealous rants than suggestions...

Jeff told me time and time again that he was cashing out but never did because he was buying all the red star cards to make complete sets and get paid that way.  Since he did that and now the payout for that is lower, I think that is why he's going after people who cashed out.

sophie the whole problem is this i dont care if you or kelate cash out 100 times cause it dont mean crap to me. i can cashout and then do the exact thing you two do by getting my stats right back to 20-20. so rita im not sure why you have to be on me. lol. its pretty crazy to assume that i am mad about something or jealous. why would i be any of those sorts. you know as well as i do that i can do the exact thing both of you are doing. the problem is people are mad cause both threads i made in the past week would compromise the way they play the games. as far as this thread you all know it should not been allowed from the get go. the problem is you all would rather argrue with me and say i am jealous why would i be jealous i cant figure out but ok i am jealous lol. that is truly the dumbest thing i have heard lol.

all i am doing is trying to make the game fair for newbs. if you honestly see it as being fair trading stuff between two house members then you need to go have things checked out.  as far as alliance members i am fine with it. you say its the same as trading in the same household and i say how is that. the people in the same house hold can talk and can figure out the best ways to do stuff in game. i know it happens in forums too but not like you could if you had a member of your household playing.

remember these are just my opinions its not law like you all are thinking for some reason.

[Spyderman]

I'm not sure why this wasn't brought up months ago but this is only targeting the folks living in the same household which its not the problem because I have seen fair trades with Kelate and her husband but not with the father and son or brother and brother. But I don't see what the problem is with this. Yeah they can talk about trades at home but also got to remember this is internet its easy to discuss trades among the messengers and pm on this site.

Yeah I have see an bunch of trades that are outrages but nobody didn't bring it up til now. The couple of trades that I have seen is for 115 settlement takeover cards for over 100,000mds ~ 3 or 4 red star cards, several blue and yellow also some md cards  to help the person to redeemed 4 or 5 complete set of 10 color star cards for cash when it was a $25.00 per set. Also seen an #19 being sold slow low that Carter can afford 2 cases of liver pills. The trades has been getting out of hand.

Ya folks think that trading among the same household doesn't seem fair to the newbies. Well I really believe the folks live in the same household, alliance members, and the ones who is honest about the trades sets an good example to the newbies of how the trades is suppose to be done.
There is folks that doesn't set good examples to the newbies when they do the trades cause they usually want more mds or whatever or taking advantage of the newbies getting the trades lower than the price really is worth for the cards. This has been going on way to long.

Yeah there should be an admin or mod to post in the trades that they feel is unfair to the other player and also the rules for the trading forum needs to be updated especially 1 of them only can edit the post only 1 time instead of many times because they want to win the cards that they are bidding on.

Welp thats all folks and will add more later on.

[Amarie]

the problem is you all would rather argrue with me

Nobody's argueing, you stated your opinion and we are stating ours.

if you honestly see it as being fair trading stuff between two house members then you need to go have things checked out as far as alliance members i am fine with it. you say its the same as trading in the same household and i say how is that. the people in the same house hold can talk and can figure out the best ways to do stuff in game. i know it happens in forums too but not like you could if you had a member of your household playing

I honestly see nothing wrong with it!
Alliance members can talk amongst theirselves just as well as household members can. We all know it happens.
The only conversation aboout this game that me and my husband have is "hey, I got such n such, I need such n such, can you make a deal".
To not allow household members to trade but to allow alliance members is just nonsense.

[7upncider]

like i have said to several people it should not have been allowed from the get go. it gives an advantage to the people that live in the same house. yea i obviously know about alliances so you can say all you want about them i think that is fine to trade amongst members. the same house hold is not for this fact.

1. if your in the same house and you cash out the money goes to that house. if both of you cash out it goes to the same house. hence eric paying out more then 100 to a house hold. each person can cashout more then 100 so if they both cashout in the same month for the max of 200 how is that fair. hmm dont sound fair to me. but if you all think it is then thats fine its your opinion.

2. in an alliance your not gonna be able to cash out for 200. think about it. you can only help one person in a house hold so there for they can only recieve 100 a month. hmmm sounds a lot better then the 200 a month a house hold could get.

3. heck in my opinion i dont think you should be able to cashout more then 100 anyways period. but thats my opinion. this would include sets of ten cards the 5 dollar gift cards.

[SophiesMommy]

the problem is you all would rather argrue with me

Nobody's argueing, you stated your opinion and we are stating ours.

if you honestly see it as being fair trading stuff between two house members then you need to go have things checked out as far as alliance members i am fine with it. you say its the same as trading in the same household and i say how is that. the people in the same house hold can talk and can figure out the best ways to do stuff in game. i know it happens in forums too but not like you could if you had a member of your household playing

Jeff, you are TRIPPIN if you think alliance members or any other 2 members of the game can't talk about trades as well as 2 people from the same household!  It's called instant messaging and I know lots of people use it.  I highly doubt  the same household people sit and conspire about unfair trades all day.  Most people have a life outside the game and Exodus3000 isn't on the brain 24/7.  

I think they should still be allowed because there are plenty of GOOD examples of trades from same household members.

[mgoody]

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Kelate, I see more jealous rants than suggestions...

Jeff told me time and time again that he was cashing out but never did because he was buying all the red star cards to make complete sets and get paid that way.  Since he did that and now the payout for that is lower, I think that is why he's going after people who cashed out.[/quote]

Lets try to keep this debate 'Non' Personal ....

Jeff has raised a valid point, and while I don't agree with him on this, he has a right to raise it if he feels strongly on it.

I don't see why there should be a restriction on same player households being barred from trading together there may be some 'abuses'  of the system but I would think they make up a very small percentage of all the trades that go through.

I have seen FREE and dispraportionate ( probably not spelled right ) trades going on between :-

People in the same alliance
In game friends ( not in the same alliance and not in the same country )
Players in the same houshold.
AND
'Free' trades going on BEFORE cashout ... then comeing back AFTER cashout.

As this game is based somewhat on Strategy AND is also a community where players interact, make friends, join alliances etc... and have FUN, I do not see any problem with the way things are going at the moment.

All the above are stratagies to get on in the game, much like Jeff's somewhat manic obsession on Red Star Cards  :wink: ( I must admit that if I was as MD loaded as Jeff I would use the same strategy as well ..... Ho . Hum ... maybe some day )

If you are going to restrict the 'Household' trades then, in fairness, you should restrict ALL free/ disproportianate ( Spell as you like ) trades ... which would basically mean giving everything a fixed price. I think that the thing that annoys me more than this though is the 'Ripping Off'  Noobs in the trade forum by certain individuals in the game. Thats just blatent proffitering ( But there again that is also a strategy ...... but one fortunately that IS policed by other players ).

OK ..... Finished my 2p worth ...... Better go and start hunting

Have Fun

Mick

[mgoody]

Wow .... Was i SLOW writeing that post .... Talk about time passing you by ...

[SophiesMommy]

Since we're throwing links for one sided trades out there I'm going to post one myself.  This trade is not same household members but is just as one sided and "unfair" (cause I know that's your favorite word, Jeff) as the others mentioned.  

http://www.exodus3000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10353&highlight=


And apparently aubi is cleaning out her cards "closet" because she sure is giving out lots of cards for free lately!

[mgoody]

http://www.exodus3000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10353&highlight=


And apparently aubi is cleaning out her cards "closet" because she sure is giving out lots of cards for free lately!

Hang on a min Rita ....... While I can't comment on the Link ( Thats a PRivate trade ) ..... Your comment on Aubi's Cleaning is totally unfounded. Like Erics competitions where you can win FREE cards and MD's our alliance also has competitions where you can WIN cards and MD's ( though not as high as 300 HA cards ) which if you don't WIN you don't GET. Hopefully 'Record Straight'.

Have Fun

Mick

[SophiesMommy]

[quote="7upncider"


2. in an alliance your not gonna be able to cash out for 200. think about it. you can only help one person in a house hold so there for they can only recieve 100 a month. hmmm sounds a lot better then the 200 a month a house hold could get.

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You don't have to be in the same alliance to do that as Kerete has proven.  He transferred all those md's to 2 different people and was probably cashing out max for himself but  the other 2 were cashing out as well and going to give him most of the money they cashed out for.

Here is a quote from what kerete wrote:

They bought of me this 490k for "Reais" everyone will pay me $100(in value brazillian currency) for that, but when they receive the payment.

Hmm... If I've done my math correctly that equals $300.  That's more than a household with two people playing and cashing out max.

[SophiesMommy]

http://www.exodus3000.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10353&highlight=


And apparently aubi is cleaning out her cards "closet" because she sure is giving out lots of cards for free lately!

Hang on a min Rita ....... While I can't comment on the Link ( Thats a PRivate trade ) ..... Your comment on Aubi's Cleaning is totally unfounded. Like Erics competitions where you can win FREE cards and MD's our alliance also has competitions where you can WIN cards and MD's ( though not as high as 300 HA cards ) which if you don't WIN you don't GET. Hopefully 'Record Straight'.

Have Fun

Mick

You're also an Algonquin.  If that "private trade" was between anyone in another alliance I bet you would comment on it.  The whole alliance must have won then because I've seen MANY of those trades in the past couple days.

[Krista]

Ok, I have had enough of this.  Some of you don't know how to stop the name-calling, so I am stopping this thread now.

Jeff, thank you for bringing up a very valid point that was already being discussed amongst the Admins.  Trust me guys, NOTHING in the trade forum gets by me or Avs.  :twisted: